Should workers who smoke be allowed to smoke on (work) campus????
What if they honor the 25 feet from any entrance or window rule that many businesses impose?
I am in favor of the 25 feet ruling bu unfortunately, my experience has been that workers will hang around the entrance so you still need to walk thru the second hand smoke (even at restaurants). We do have some hospitals that are experiencing success as they forbid any smoking on their campus (property) and they have security monitoring it along with parking. Some agencies find it working by providing benches, gazebo, outdoor chairs etc with a specialized ash can for the trash. It can be a challenging issue for sure.
Place a smoking area out back away from the building. We have a smokers patio for residents. They are only allowed to smoke there and it is outside.
Nope...I can't condone that either! It looks terrible from a marketing perspective, it's still close enough that when the wind shifts people walking into the building may have to walk through smoke/breathe it in. In my industry of Senior Care we are healthcare providers and I personally feel very strongly that we should not have smoking on our campuses.
If there was a 25 foot rule here, they would either be smoking on my property or the town park. Neither one is cool.
I'm new to this forum, but if people want to smoke, get in your car and take a ride off the property. The research is eminently clear of second hand smoke and the damage it does. Perhaps some day the industry who supports the sales of smoking products will follow the lead of CVS who decided to be a part of the solution rather than part of the problem.
Most employees where I work smoke out in their cars.
I voted yes, but only if the honor the 25 feet rule and they don't get special "Smoke breaks", and if they are not doing it at client homes.
Hello, I agree with CVS, be part of the solution and not the part of the problem. Our residents, and co-workers watch what we all do, be a positive leader. Promote health, also February is national heart month. Friday Feb 06 is national wear red day. Please try to wear red to promote healthy hearts. Have a great week.
I voted yes because smoker's will smoke. There is a hospital located near my home, where it is banned for the employees to smoke on premises. However, I have seen the nurses and doctors leave the premises and smoke in the nearby woods of a county park. This poses a major fire hazard. Although second hand smoke can pose threats in the long run, a fire can destroy so much more and in less of a time span. At our facility, the only place employees are allowed to smoke is in the designated smoking gazebo, which is equipped with a fire extinguisher and ash trays. Instead of banning smoking, our community has offered Smoking Cessation courses to help employees kick the habit altogether.
I voted No. As a former smoker I know the smell bothers people. I think if people could smoke at their cars or smoking area's it would be fine.
I voted no because unfortunately people will not adhere to any rules set. I work in the second floor and cannot enjoy having my window open because people below are smoking (not adhering to the 25 foot rule) and it wafts up and fills my office. However, our organization offers incentives for those who are willing to undergo smoking cessation courses.
I voted yes. If the work place is going to allow smoking, then they should have a designated smoking area. Somewhere far enough away from others and somewhere that is a comfortable distance for the smokers to go. I am a smoker. My work place does have a designated smoking area. I work in a long term care facility. We have designated area away from patients and family. It is near our parking area. We have a covered area for inclement weather. We all go there to smoke. We know that this area or our cars are were we are to smoke. It works out good for everyone.
I am in favor of a designated location out of the weather on campus for people who want to smoke or vape on their breaks. On our campus we are 50 yards from an entrance. If employees violate the policy of using the smoking area it becomes a disciplinary issue. This seems to work well. No one smokes around clients or other employees.
If they walk off the "campus" of our clinic to smoke, they are either on my property or one of the town nature preserves. They can sit in their cars, but it stinks to high heaven when they come back.
When a client comes back to my office from smoking and they "stink" I use it as an opportunity to educate and skills train. Of course that is the nature of my job anyway but teaching smokers to wash their hands after smoking and to smoke outside eliminates a lot of the smell.
Some individuals, staff or clients may be (unbeknownst to others) allergic to smoke (like myself). So It's better safe than sorry
Great comments here. The rights of non-smokers often take precedence over the rights of smokers. I think it is best to have a smoking area protected from weather and away from doors an windows. When this discussion comes up, I always like to play devil's advocate and say that I do not want people walking in the office, around the office (or have on their desk) any cup or bag from a fast food restaurant, no fried food, no sweets, no vending machines, no soda, etc.. . . because obesity is a problem in our society and kills just like smoking does. No one wants that policy, though (I want my laughing Mugsy emoticon, but it is not on here!)
I hear your point, but eating unhealthy food doesn't have the same dangerous second hand side effects as smoking does. I can't get overweight if my roommate is eating a cupcake. I can get cancer if I have to walk through a cloud of smoke every day.
I agree, lol, but I do appreciate the devil's advocate. You're funny though, lol...
Oh, BRANDY SCOTT the argument would be that obesity causes my health care costs to go up. We do need to find someone to eat our cupcakes, though. Any volunteers?!
The likelihood of getting cancer from just walking through a cloud of cigarette smoke for less than one second a day is non-existent. That's like saying you could get AIDS from standing next to someone everyday who has AIDS. not touching, just standing. And as far as harmful chemicals go, Hydrogen when consumed by it's self is toxic. yet we drink it every day. o.O just something to think about.
Also, I didn't know/think that smoking or not smoking was a "right"... I mean free will/choice yea, but then freedom of choice as a right inherently also encroaches upon the freedom of others to not have their rights violated by being exposed (without their choosing) to toxic/harmful substances that don't HAVE to be there, but is due to the choices of others. So it's a conundrum....
Almost all hospitals in the Phoenix area say no smoking on campus and that should be for all businesses.
I say leave it up to the company
I voted no because smoke really bothers my allergies in addition to smelling bad. Even if it's outside. I'd like to point out that the other question in the poll should read, "Yes, because it is their right," not "there right."
A lot of elderly people smoke and when you take smoking away. you are also infringing upon their right to smoke if they choose to smoke. Smoking maybe bad for you but so is a lot of other things. When you start infringing upon the rights of others to choose. We are no longer a free nation. Just food for thought
well im a smaoker and i believe i should have the right to do as i please on my break, if i choose to smoke fine or take a short nap or whatever it is i should have the right. i do agree smokers should be designated to a smoking area away from the entrance to a facility. in most faclities there are many ins and outs to the building and those who dont smoke need to avoid the smoking area. its a touchy place to get into this. but im pro smoker.
I think smoking is up to the individual as long as it does not make others that don't smoke have to be around it. I should be away from them.
I am a smoker as well, but I think it is up to the facility. At our facility we have a designated smoking area about 50 yards behind the hospital. It is against the tree line away from everyone and everything. I appreciate that they provide an area for us, and provide a picnic table and ash trays. Many hospitals in our area are completely smoke free. I guess I see it as a privilege and not a right.
Smoking in public is like peeing in a public pool...neither should be done.
but both are!
If they are outside and 25 feet away this is their prerogative. I smoked for many, many years then vaped for 2 years now nothing. But if one wants to indulge go right ahead.
In my opinion, banning cigarette smoking on "campus" is not only completely unreasonable for staff, it's also restrictive to the clients who smoke as well. How would you like it if someone came up to you outside your home and told you that you cant loiter out on your own porch? By telling our clients that they cannot smoke on the premises you're restricting their right to smoke. Asking staff to drive off during smoke breaks is unreasonable as well. what if you work in a single-staffed house? or what if something occurs that the staff need your help like, god forbid, a client falls and the other staff is away in their car smoking? Leaving the premises while on the clock without a client is putting the group homes at risk of violation. 25 feet away is more than reasonable. We cannot force our convictions on our clients or co-workers.
As a non-smoker, I don't have an issue with people smoking as long as they do so in a dedicated area that is outside and away from the main doors. I do like the idea of a non-smoking campus but I do not believe it should be a mandatory deal. To each his own.
I think you are right. We don't put overweight residents on a diet. It is their right to eat to much if they want. I don't think smoking is any different. We all have some sort of vice.
We've had more of a problem with the clients smoking near the entrance and other clients having to walk through the cloud.
I voted yes, because at the nursing home that i work at there are co workers, along with resiadents that smoke and we take them out on a rutinely smoking schdule that the resiadents are very well famillier with (even tho they try and get us to take them out early), and we have desinated smoking areas for them and us that we can smoke at, so if workers want to smoke on the property let them, it's there right
There is a place and time for everything I suppose!
NO NO NO No Smoking or Chewing, Cant stand either, I cant encourage Cancer and Gum Disease.
Not only is it harmful to our associates, but we should be setting an example for our patients. However if there is a non smoking policy, we should make every effort to assist staff with quitting smoking by providing them with resources or medications as required.
I do not smoke, But a individual whether a Resident or worker should have the right or Free will to do so. There should be a designated area for them. Workers caught smoking in a area other then the designated smoke area should be written up, and if necessary fired for not following the smoking policy. Just because people do not smoke does not give them the right to say no one smokes.
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